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Ivan Zvonimir Čičak
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EKUMENA I ETIKA U POSLOVANJU Ivan Zvonimir Čičak

Guest Ivan Zvonimir ČičakHosted by Augustin BašićMay 3, 2026
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What is public morality? And can a concept so 'elastic like chewing gum' truly serve as a foundation for ethical business? Ivan Zvonimir Čičak, a towering figure from Croatia's tumultuous past, doesn't just ask these questions; his life has been a living laboratory for them. From leading the student movement of the Croatian Spring in 1971 to enduring solitary confinement for his convictions, Čičak has seen ideologies rise and fall, and societies grapple with their moral compass. Now, as president of the Croatian Helsinki Committee, he brings a perspective forged in the crucible of political repression and personal sacrifice. This conversation is a rare opportunity to hear how someone who has fought for fundamental freedoms defines the bedrock of ethics, and what true wealth looks like after a lifetime of principled struggle.

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Čičak questions the very concept of 'public morality,' calling it 'elastic like chewing gum' and noting its varied interpretations across cultures. Before discussing ethics, it's essential to scrutinize the foundational terms we use, especially when their meaning shifts so dramatically across contexts.
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Čičak contrasts the 'great unity' and 'enthusiasm' of the 1971 Croatian Spring with the 'Machiavellian approach' and 'stigmatization of political opponents' in 1991. A movement's long-term health depends not just on achieving its goals, but on the integrity of its internal dynamics and the respect it affords its own dissenters.
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Čičak asserts that fascism and communism are 'ideologies of evil,' and that 'criminals cannot have monuments, regardless of their alleged merits.' A society's moral clarity is measured by its refusal to commemorate figures who led regimes built on systemic wrongdoing.
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After nine months in solitary confinement, Čičak's psychiatrist advised him to 'throw more stones on that well' rather than 'digging into it.' Some experiences are so profoundly traumatic that the most productive path to healing isn't re-examination, but a deliberate act of sealing them off.
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Asked if he experienced a sudden 'conversion' in prison, Čičak describes 'metanoia and conversion' as a 'daily process' of being 'open to the absolute.' Profound change, he suggests, is less a single dramatic event and more a continuous, conscious orientation toward growth.
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After a life marked by political struggle and imprisonment, Čičak defines his 'greatest wealth' as his family: his wife, five children, six grandchildren, and a wide circle of friends. The true measure of a life well-lived, especially after enduring immense hardship, often shifts from public achievement to the private bonds of family and community.
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