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Martina i Miroslav Vuković
Episode · #794

RITAM POSLA Martina i Miroslav Vuković

Guest Martina i Miroslav VukovićHosted by Lidija KiseljakMay 3, 2026
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The idea of starting a business rarely begins with a grand plan; often, it starts with a simple curiosity. For Miroslav Vuković, it was reading online that beer could be made at home, sparking a hobby that would eventually become Pivski Mudraci. His wife Martina initially offered patient support from a couch in the attic, sometimes wondering if he *really* needed to brew again. This is not the story of a meticulously planned startup, but of a decade-long evolution from an improvised attic setup, complete with a hair dryer-heated fermentation chamber, to a brand now found on supermarket shelves. Martina and Miroslav Vuković share the unexpected turns of their path, from a small Croatian village to building a unique brewing operation. They reveal how resourcefulness, a touch of romanticism about wood-fired stoves, and a willingness to embrace an unconventional journey transformed a personal interest into a commercial venture. Their conversation offers a window into how deep personal conviction, even when initially unburdened by business ambitions, can ultimately shape a lasting enterprise, demonstrating that some of the best ideas emerge not from market analysis, but from a persistent, hands-on pursuit of what fascinates us.

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What to take from this episode
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Miroslav's venture into homebrewing began simply because he read online that it was possible, not from a specific market opportunity or business plan. The most enduring ventures often begin not with a business strategy, but with a personal curiosity that simply demands to be explored.
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Martina's early support for Miroslav's brewing involved sitting on a couch in the attic, drinking coffee, and chatting, even admitting she sometimes wondered if he *really* had to brew again. Early-stage support isn't always active participation; sometimes it's just patient presence, even with a touch of skepticism, that allows a nascent idea to grow.
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Their first 'brewery' was in an attic, not a garage, because a garage wasn't available, and Martina 'didn't allow it in the kitchen.' Resourcefulness isn't about finding the ideal space; it's about making the most of the space you have, even if it means an improvised setup.
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The early fermentation chamber was a small, two-square-meter improvised space, heated by a hair dryer in winter and cooled by frozen water bottles in summer. True innovation often starts with 'what if I just use this?' — leveraging everyday objects for highly specific technical functions, rather than waiting for custom equipment.
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Pivski Mudraci still brews its beer on a wood-fired stove, a method Martina finds 'romantic' and that Miroslav describes as simply an energy source, believing it's unique in Croatia. A seemingly anachronistic production method can become a core differentiator, not just a quirk, if it's genuinely part of the product's identity and story.
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The decision to formalize the business into a company happened in 2020, during the initial phase of the COVID pandemic, after Miroslav had purchased a new brewing system that sat in the garage for a year. Sometimes the signal to commit to a formal business isn't a clear market opening, but an accumulated readiness and the unexpected push of external circumstances.
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Martina applied for 'Startup Hrvatska' right after opening the company, but before they had even brewed their first commercial batch, finding the questions about sales and annual revenue comical. Starting a business often means navigating formal processes designed for established entities, requiring a willingness to apply even when you don't fully fit the mold.